once you get into a situation where tax laws are more stable and not -- >> it's smooths out. it smooths out. but the point is next year as joe just pointed out we'll see in 1986 those gains fell by more than half. the government collected half what they did the previous year, so we're going to see a really spiky income and revenue situation for the next two years. >> the question is what would happen, though, if you had a simpson/bowles-type plan. it plans to take dividends to 28% along with ordinary income. but 28% is higher than it would go up under most of the proposals. >> but this all begs the question of a great example this whole fiscal cliff the conversation we're having right here around the table about the simplification of our tax system. we laid out back during the campaign was basically a 20% flat tax across the board and gets away from all of these exemptions and all of the quite frankly you having to have two cpas and a lawyer to be able to do your taxes. and that's where washington really needs to be focused when we talk about what do they really need to be do